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The Tale of Two Burans

captaincrusher:

rikerssexblouse:

jhelenoftrek:

Fan theory time people, gather ‘round.

So, I’ve been thinking a lot about Mr. Mirror Lorca, because I’m about 99% sure that we’re headed for him to be revealed as such.  If so, then at some point he had to come over to the PrimeU, and he had to have a damn good reason.

History Lesson:  The PrimeU war started with the Klingons as we saw in Eps 1&2.  About a month after that, the Buran was
ambushed and overtaken.  

One of two
things happened.  1. PrimeLorca set the auto destruct
but didn’t leave.  He went down with his
ship.  Bye bye, so sad.  or  2.  PrimeBuran was
swapped into the MirrorVerse only to be blown up by the Emperor, while MirrorLorca
destroys his own ship in PrimeVerse then walks away with nary an eye injury (I think this is more
likely).

Preceeding this in the Mirror U, MirrorLorca was
attempting a coup against the Emperor (as stated in Ep 10).  Michael reads that her “shuttle” was destroyed
by one of his followers (when she was trying to get to him) and she was
killed.  In retaliation the Emperor laid
waste to MirrorBuran (which might have been PrimeBuran)?

There’s a lot of information in those lines of dialogue from Ep 10 which leaves
many questions.  

1.      
Michael went after the Buran, but not aboard the
Shenzou.  Why would she go on a shuttle unless
she was going to talk to Lorca personally?
Were they involved somehow then something went wrong and she was killed?  It sure seems like Mirror Michael and Lorca were
close, doesn’t it?

2.      
Was the Emperor’s retaliation because Michael was
killed?  Were they close?  (It’s implied that the Emperor and her crew
thought highly of her.) Or was it just because he attempted that coup?  You realize, Georgiou basically just blew up one of her own ships.  Probably afraid that Lorca’s
crew would be just as dangerous to her.

3.      
From the fact that MirrorLorca orders Michael to
destroy that Resistance base, it’s pretty clear he’s not part of the
Resistance.  The only other reason I can
think of for a coup would be just pure power, so he could be Emperor.  Can I see him in that uniform, PLEASE?  Sorry, i got off track.

4.      
He had “followers”.  Could that have been Captain Killy of the
Discovery?  I think, maybe so.  Put a pin in that for a second.

5.      
Finally, Burnham reads from the report “It’s
believed you escaped.”  Yes.  Bingo.
He escaped into PrimeUniverse to be the only one survivor of the other
Buran.

Speculations w/ no real backup at this point:  
How did MirrorLorca transfer to the PrimeU?
Well, if he was in cahoots (love that word) with MirrorTilly/Discovery,
then MirrorStamets (who seems awful confident of his skills in that mushroom
forest) might have had a way to zap him there.
Or he drove the Buran there the same way the Defiant went (my belief). Or
it could have been an old fashioned “This is Trek, shit collides, people cross
universes” but I tend to believe it was more planned out for a very specific purpose.  Hang on i’m getting there.

Other things to consider:

Mirror Lorca wanted back to his universe, but only after he thought he could affect
some kind of change there and obviously he hasn’t done that yet, he’s stalling.  That little smirk he gives to Phillipa.  She’s his target, just like before when he tried a coup.  What information/skills/resources does he
have now that he didn’t before?  Thanks for asking, let me tell you: 

“Who is it? Why can’t we see them? Hail
the commanding officer. Tell them to retreat.”


The Emperor’s ship is CLOAKED!!!  And
GUESS who has the information to bring down that cloak now.  I’d bet Lorca’s nuts that Georgiou is on the
Mirror version of the Ship of the Dead.  And now he can bring it down.  He went into the PrimeVerse for that information alone and high-tailed it back as soon as he had it.  He can destroy her ship, strand himself and Michael in the MirrorVerse and lead it supremely after the Discovery’s are swapped again.

Have I given you a headache yet?  Who has more thoughts?

AAAAHHHHHHH.

Wanting the cloak-breaking technology makes so much sense. Shit, girl, I think you figured it out. 

I think that the eye injury will be one of those clues that suddenly makes sense. The emperor will say something like “… and then I blinded Lorca before he escaped” and you go “Oohhh…”.

Additional thoughts: Lorca specifically wanted Michael on board the Discovery. He obviously needed her.

Let’s say Lorca wants to get to the emperor. To kill her or whatever (Maybe have a long make out session). How can he do that? If he approaches her himself he’ll just be killed. But if he returns with Michael – she will definitely both show up herself and take Michael on board. 

So now does he not only have the capability to get through her cloak, he also knows where she is and will soon be on her ship.

Also, I’m thinking he now he purposefully led Stamets towards a discovery Mirror!Stamets had already created. Lorca ended up in the wrong universe (for him) and then guided the crew every step of the way until he ended up back in the mirroruniverse with 1. Michael and 2. The anti cloak technology. 

The Tale of Two Burans

rikerssexblouse:

jhelenoftrek:

Fan theory time people, gather ‘round.

So, I’ve been thinking a lot about Mr. Mirror Lorca, because I’m about 99% sure that we’re headed for him to be revealed as such.  If so, then at some point he had to come over to the PrimeU, and he had to have a damn good reason.

History Lesson:  The PrimeU war started with the Klingons as we saw in Eps 1&2.  About a month after that, the Buran was
ambushed and overtaken.  

One of two
things happened.  1. PrimeLorca set the auto destruct
but didn’t leave.  He went down with his
ship.  Bye bye, so sad.  or  2.  PrimeBuran was
swapped into the MirrorVerse only to be blown up by the Emperor, while MirrorLorca
destroys his own ship in PrimeVerse then walks away with nary an eye injury (I think this is more
likely).

Preceeding this in the Mirror U, MirrorLorca was
attempting a coup against the Emperor (as stated in Ep 10).  Michael reads that her “shuttle” was destroyed
by one of his followers (when she was trying to get to him) and she was
killed.  In retaliation the Emperor laid
waste to MirrorBuran (which might have been PrimeBuran)?

There’s a lot of information in those lines of dialogue from Ep 10 which leaves
many questions.  

1.      
Michael went after the Buran, but not aboard the
Shenzou.  Why would she go on a shuttle unless
she was going to talk to Lorca personally?
Were they involved somehow then something went wrong and she was killed?  It sure seems like Mirror Michael and Lorca were
close, doesn’t it?

2.      
Was the Emperor’s retaliation because Michael was
killed?  Were they close?  (It’s implied that the Emperor and her crew
thought highly of her.) Or was it just because he attempted that coup?  You realize, Georgiou basically just blew up one of her own ships.  Probably afraid that Lorca’s
crew would be just as dangerous to her.

3.      
From the fact that MirrorLorca orders Michael to
destroy that Resistance base, it’s pretty clear he’s not part of the
Resistance.  The only other reason I can
think of for a coup would be just pure power, so he could be Emperor.  Can I see him in that uniform, PLEASE?  Sorry, i got off track.

4.      
He had “followers”.  Could that have been Captain Killy of the
Discovery?  I think, maybe so.  Put a pin in that for a second.

5.      
Finally, Burnham reads from the report “It’s
believed you escaped.”  Yes.  Bingo.
He escaped into PrimeUniverse to be the only one survivor of the other
Buran.

Speculations w/ no real backup at this point:  
How did MirrorLorca transfer to the PrimeU?
Well, if he was in cahoots (love that word) with MirrorTilly/Discovery,
then MirrorStamets (who seems awful confident of his skills in that mushroom
forest) might have had a way to zap him there.
Or he drove the Buran there the same way the Defiant went (my belief). Or
it could have been an old fashioned “This is Trek, shit collides, people cross
universes” but I tend to believe it was more planned out for a very specific purpose.  Hang on i’m getting there.

Other things to consider:

Mirror Lorca wanted back to his universe, but only after he thought he could affect
some kind of change there and obviously he hasn’t done that yet, he’s stalling.  That little smirk he gives to Phillipa.  She’s his target, just like before when he tried a coup.  What information/skills/resources does he
have now that he didn’t before?  Thanks for asking, let me tell you: 

“Who is it? Why can’t we see them? Hail
the commanding officer. Tell them to retreat.”


The Emperor’s ship is CLOAKED!!!  And
GUESS who has the information to bring down that cloak now.  I’d bet Lorca’s nuts that Georgiou is on the
Mirror version of the Ship of the Dead.  And now he can bring it down.  He went into the PrimeVerse for that information alone and high-tailed it back as soon as he had it.  He can destroy her ship, strand himself and Michael in the MirrorVerse and lead it supremely after the Discovery’s are swapped again.

Have I given you a headache yet?  Who has more thoughts?

AAAAHHHHHHH.

Wanting the cloak-breaking technology makes so much sense. Shit, girl, I think you figured it out. 

I think that the eye injury will be one of those clues that suddenly makes sense. The emperor will say something like “… and then I blinded Lorca before he escaped” and you go “Oohhh…”.

Regular

It’s great that e12 of Discovery will open with Hugh Culber and Paul Stamets holding hands while eating their breakfast in their own quarters where they both spent the night because no one is hurt or dead.

It’ll be great.

Regular

soyraktajino:

femmejadzia:

Ultimate list of reasons why I predict it will be revealed that Lorca is from the mirror universe soon:

1. Cornwell, someone who knew Lorca intimately, said outright that he was a different person. Also he had scars she didn’t recognise which are consistent with the nature of the close combat which is required to climb the ranks in the empire.

2. Sleeping with a knife under your pillow and expecting attacks at all times is mirror universe trauma where everyone on your own ship is out to get you, not trauma from a starship battle where the danger of being attacked in your sleep isn’t really your main concern.

3. Cornwell said that he’d have to almost be a psychopath to lie on his evaluation, a brutal genius (exactly like a mirror counterpart).

4. The writers haven’t touched on this “there’s something wrong with Lorca” thing in a while which mirrors exactly how they treated the Ash = Voq plot. Bring it up at the beginning and then let it rest for ages while dropping steadily heavier hints before finally revealing it after a long dip in the narrative.

5. Lorca was shown to have previously had a very close relationship with Cornwell and yet it’s implied he tried to get her killed by pushing her into a Klingon trap so that she wouldn’t get the ship removed from his command. This seems more like the actions of a mirror universe Lorca who has never given a crap about Cornwell and just sees her as an obstacle to remove.

6. The “I need this ship to keep me sane” plot has not paid off or really been mentioned at all. Which means he was lying and he needed the ship for something else (getting back to the mirror universe).

7. He’d shown no interest in exploration and only cared about the war and then suddenly it’s revealed he cares Very Specifically about the ship’s ability to get to mirror universes.

8. When he returned to the starbase after the battle he knew Cornwell would probably have reported him by then and he would have his command removed. He needed to use the ship Right Now to get back to his universe or he wouldn’t have the opportunity for much longer.

9. He very clearly emotionally manipulated Stamets into doing the jump and there was a Lorca Override thing in red on the screen when they showed the data from the failed jump.

10. We found out that in the mirror universe he was hunted by Michael so it makes sense that he would purposely hijack Michael’s transport to get her on the ship and it explains why he’s so obsessed with her.

11. Finding out that mirror Lorca attempted a coup reveals a parallel between his and Michael’s mutinies and creates a lot of neat opportunities for parallels and comparisons between them.

12. Lorca is stalling for reasons why they shouldn’t return back to their ship now they have the information to get them home.

13. It gives an additional explanation to why Lorca was a-okay with blowing up the rebel base.

14. There has already been a clear event which would be the pseudoscientific reason for the switch: Lorca’s ship exploding. This kind of event is classic Star Trek for “it created a mysterious spacetime anomoly”. Also narratively, this is already established as the point where Lorca changed as a person, so maybe we should take that more literally.

15. It makes narrative sense. The season is meant to be one long story, so why bring them to the mirror universe for multiple episodes unless there’s an important development that’s going to happen there that is essential for the main plot of the story.

16. If the real Lorca is stranded in the mirror universe this gives a clear path forwards for season two and how they’re going to solve the problem of having a captain who shouldn’t be in command of the ship and will eventually be caught. Easy, they replace him with the real Lorca.

17. And finally, Lorca’s entire character just fits perfectly into every archetype Star Trek has established about cheesy villains from the mirror universe.

You know what fam I am SO about this theory, this is fantastic, I love this. Lorca=Mirror!Lorca is way better than Ash=Voq and I accept it wholeheartedly

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when you spot your new space best friend 

The Discovery soundtrack is now available!

The Discovery soundtrack is now available!

99 % of all background photo’s from Discovery …

99 % of all background photo’s from Discovery contains Sonequa Martin Green smiling like she’s the happiest person alive.
I. Love. Her.

Chapter 2 Episode Titles!

Chapter 2 Episode Titles!

10: Despite Yourself

11: The Wolf Inside

12: Vaulting Ambition

13: What’s Past is Prologue

14: The War Without, the War Within

15: Will You Take My Hand?

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lesbianphilippa:

“ I could be your date. 

Ok but only now I realized that where they stand it looks like a parallel to that scene where Spock dies in The wrath of Khan.

Or the other way around in Into darkness

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